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Anyone catch the poll on the A's website, "Who is your favorite A's reliever?" After almost 4000 votes the results are Huston Street in 1st place with 43%, followed by Duchscherer at 21%, then Dotel at 20%. (I can't believe Calero only got 11%, he got my vote.) I haven't liked Dotel from the beginning, something about a guy who celebrates that much on the mound really bothers me. I mean it's one thing when you are untouchable like Eck, but when you allow 2 walks, a hit, a run, and still get the save, don't start yelling and pounding your chest. Of the 30 or so games he has saved for the A's, it seems like only about 5 of them have been 1-2-3 innings.
agreed...it's hilarious. He basically lit himself on fire on the mound yesterday and then still gave the big fist pump? That's ridiculous. I am not a big fan of Dotel - I never feel comfy with him on the mound. I would rather have a guy like Duke there - he doesn't throw 96, but he locates and gets the job done and not as much stress for me.
I dont dislike Dotel as much as you do beaneball but I agree with you for the most part. He isnt closer material. Especially without his 97-98 mph fastball. He has gotten pretty lucky this year. Are strongesst assets in the bullpen have to be DUKE and KIKO. Duke gets my vote for #1 followed by Kiko and than Street...just for the fact that he is fun to watch and I'm stoked about the guy.
I didn't see the poll so didn't vote. I probably would have said Calero or Duke, but I'm sure since Calero missed a couple weeks a lot of people didn't zero in on him. I have no problem with Dotel's emotion at all. I never had a problem with Miggy's, either. I do think he is a better closer than most of you seem to think. Evidently there are a number of other teams who do too.
I don't hate Octavio, but I do hope that other teams love him and we can deal him for some good stuff.
The problem with your hope, Adam, is he will likely be dealt for two prospects ... no immediate help up here. The teams who will want him are those in a pennant race; they are not about to give us any immediate help where it's needed. The only possibility is a deal involving 3 or 4 teams and that will likely cost us more than Dotel, if it can even be made.
I like THE DUKE!!! Great interview Fosse had with him on yesterday's pregame. He said he even still thinks about starting! But I think he's found a pretty good niche. When the Duke come in, he really gives teams a different look, and that 12-6 curve is flat out nasty. Fosse was saying most players will just take it for a strike, since it can be nearly impossible to hit (unless it hangs)
Most pitchers (sans the specialists out of the gate) want to start. Duke could, but .... I'm not so sure how successful he would be the 3rd time through the order. Actually ... though somewhat of an accident through need, I think he has found his niche. He has to be one of the best ... if not the best ... long relievers in the game. He has certainly been gold for us and last season for him was no fluke. He also added another pitch this year ... I think it was the cutter. He has been indispensable for us, without a doubt.
Oh I almost forgot to mention: Ricardo Rincon was not part of the poll. Gee I wonder why? Why won't Macha accept the fact that when a left handed hitter comes up, a good righty pitcher is a better option than a horrible lefty. The Angels were just fine last year with no lefty in their bullpen, I don't know why we don't do it.
You know it wasn't that long ago that Rincon was the premier lefty reliever in the game. He hasn't had horrible years for us, but he hasn't been all that "clutch" either!
Duke had a rough outing tonight. Not covering first base was a very bad mental fart.
yeah, he was due for a bit of a bad outing.
Guess it is a bad omen to give accolades to anyone.
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