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Bullpen poll results

OAFC BBS - All Topics: Archive: Bullpen poll results
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By beaneball on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:02 pm:

Anyone catch the poll on the A's website, "Who is your favorite A's reliever?" After almost 4000 votes the results are Huston Street in 1st place with 43%, followed by Duchscherer at 21%, then Dotel at 20%. (I can't believe Calero only got 11%, he got my vote.) I haven't liked Dotel from the beginning, something about a guy who celebrates that much on the mound really bothers me. I mean it's one thing when you are untouchable like Eck, but when you allow 2 walks, a hit, a run, and still get the save, don't start yelling and pounding your chest. Of the 30 or so games he has saved for the A's, it seems like only about 5 of them have been 1-2-3 innings.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By asch on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:25 pm:

agreed...it's hilarious. He basically lit himself on fire on the mound yesterday and then still gave the big fist pump? That's ridiculous. I am not a big fan of Dotel - I never feel comfy with him on the mound. I would rather have a guy like Duke there - he doesn't throw 96, but he locates and gets the job done and not as much stress for me.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktowngreen on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:30 pm:

I dont dislike Dotel as much as you do beaneball but I agree with you for the most part. He isnt closer material. Especially without his 97-98 mph fastball. He has gotten pretty lucky this year. Are strongesst assets in the bullpen have to be DUKE and KIKO. Duke gets my vote for #1 followed by Kiko and than Street...just for the fact that he is fun to watch and I'm stoked about the guy.

...About Dotel pounding his chest...if he's doing it, we're usually celebrating a win or a shut down inning...so, POUND AWAY OCTAVIO!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktowngreen on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:32 pm:

I
just proof read my post...I have bad grammar!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:46 pm:

I didn't see the poll so didn't vote. I probably would have said Calero or Duke, but I'm sure since Calero missed a couple weeks a lot of people didn't zero in on him. I have no problem with Dotel's emotion at all. I never had a problem with Miggy's, either. I do think he is a better closer than most of you seem to think. Evidently there are a number of other teams who do too.

I do agree that Duke has been a huge asset to this pen and as important ... if not more so ... than anyone down there. He has been huge for a full season and has started this one off even better, if that's possible. I just hope that he, Calero and Street don't get overused. Especially Street, this being his first year, I think they need to be very careful with him. Essentially, btw. CWS last year and the Fall League, he hasn't stopped pitching for a year.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By asch on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 04:56 pm:

I don't hate Octavio, but I do hope that other teams love him and we can deal him for some good stuff.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 07:38 am:

The problem with your hope, Adam, is he will likely be dealt for two prospects ... no immediate help up here. The teams who will want him are those in a pennant race; they are not about to give us any immediate help where it's needed. The only possibility is a deal involving 3 or 4 teams and that will likely cost us more than Dotel, if it can even be made.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rayfossefan on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 01:21 pm:

I like THE DUKE!!! Great interview Fosse had with him on yesterday's pregame. He said he even still thinks about starting! But I think he's found a pretty good niche. When the Duke come in, he really gives teams a different look, and that 12-6 curve is flat out nasty. Fosse was saying most players will just take it for a strike, since it can be nearly impossible to hit (unless it hangs)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 01:58 pm:

Most pitchers (sans the specialists out of the gate) want to start. Duke could, but .... I'm not so sure how successful he would be the 3rd time through the order. Actually ... though somewhat of an accident through need, I think he has found his niche. He has to be one of the best ... if not the best ... long relievers in the game. He has certainly been gold for us and last season for him was no fluke. He also added another pitch this year ... I think it was the cutter. He has been indispensable for us, without a doubt.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By beaneball on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 03:27 pm:

Oh I almost forgot to mention: Ricardo Rincon was not part of the poll. Gee I wonder why? Why won't Macha accept the fact that when a left handed hitter comes up, a good righty pitcher is a better option than a horrible lefty. The Angels were just fine last year with no lefty in their bullpen, I don't know why we don't do it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rayfossefan on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 07:47 pm:

You know it wasn't that long ago that Rincon was the premier lefty reliever in the game. He hasn't had horrible years for us, but he hasn't been all that "clutch" either!

Yes, Duke said on his pregame that he developed a cutter. It's useful for him since it's a bit faster than the curve and a bit slower than his fastball, and has good movement.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rocket on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 09:04 pm:

Duke had a rough outing tonight. Not covering first base was a very bad mental fart.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rayfossefan on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 09:35 pm:

yeah, he was due for a bit of a bad outing.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 09:46 pm:

Guess it is a bad omen to give accolades to anyone.


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