OAFC BBS - All Topics: Archive: For the Macha dissenters
Marty Lurie has it right. I didn't like Macha at first either. And I was livid about the pinch hitting debacle with Dye. Actually, it sure wasn't worse than Howe's failure to run for Jeremy Giambi, when you get down to it. I happen to think, as previously stated, that Macha is doing an excellent job. And proof of the pudding is how his team came back last year and how they are playing this year ... with a raftful of key players on the DL, no less. And that has not been lost on several of those who follow the A's closely, including Lowell Cohn's column last week, "Macha pushing all the right buttons" and to a lesser degree, his column today.
The A'S will never win the WS with Macha at the helm. IMO His decisions and/or lack of desisions have led directly to at least 5 losses so far this year. The A'S have won several other games in spite of some Macha decisions. I have little confidence in Macha leading the A'S to the playoffs let alone a WS appearance.
I'll chime in here as a Macha detractor.
I'll never forget of forgive what Macha did in Game 5 in the 2003 ALDS when he pitch hit for Dye and I still don't know why he made that move.
Macha is a puppet. He is a reflection of Beane. I'm not a Macha fan but he made the move because Dye's average vs. Melhuse wasn't even close. In retrospect it doesn't look good but odds are that Dye would have struck out too, or made an out in some way. Don't forge TLong could have done something after that but the game ended with the bat on TLong's shoulder. I blame TLong much more than Macha in that one.
Macha is a puppet. He is a reflection of Beane. I'm not a Macha fan but he made the move because Dye's average vs. Melhuse wasn't even close. In retrospect it doesn't look good but odds are that Dye would have struck out too, or made an out in some way. Don't forget TLong could have done something after that but the game ended with the bat on TLong's shoulder. I blame TLong much more than Macha in that one.
Dye was the highest paid A's by far at that time with a salary of 10+ million, he had a very good game 4 and had a hit his previous AB before he was pulled out.
Your big money team leader hit something like .170 that season, and did NOT have a good series with the exception of that previous game, so I still blame TLong more than Macha.
I still remember screaming at the TV when I saw Dye getting pinch hit for. Dye hit a hr in game 4, he was in fact the only A's hitter to hit a hr that entire 5 game set against the BoSox and he led the A's that series with 3 RBIs, tied with Durazo. He was your hottest hitter vet hitters in the lineup but that awful LH vs RH matchup % that Macha uses reared it's ugly head up with Macha again but this time, Lowe wasn't one who lefties do well against cause of that pitch that tails back into the inside of the plate which Lowe got both Melhuse and Long with to end the series essentially.
Unless Duke hurt himself again already, taking him out after six pitches was mind numbingly stupid by Macha and has probably just cost the A's the game tonight.
much agreed, duke is solid and looked great tonite.
I think it shows a complete inability to adjust to the situation. He probably made up his mind before the game even started that if Duke pitched tonight he'd only go one inning. He has an incredibly quick inning and Macha can't adjust to it. You can't tell me he couldn't throw 20 pitches tonight.
I agree with you YC on the Duke decision but what really frosts me is Macha pitching to the 8th place hitter in the 4th with Durham on 3rd. Dumb ass.
I was like damn Duke is on!! commercial break........come back from the fridge with a beer...Hey! Where'd my Duke go? Unbeleivable!
Perhaps there was some concern with the Duke's physical condition considering the fact that he just spent 40+ games on the DL?
I have to agree with Macha on this one.
Having Duke on a pitch count I agree with.
Nice job Macha handling the pen today.
Yup. I was baffled when Haren was allowed to hit in the top of the 6th since he was already at 99 pitches and struggling with his command all day. Perfect situation for a pinch hitter and a new pitcher in the bottom of the inning. To me that was the turning point of the game. A shut down inning there and the A's are in good shape. Oh well. I was hoping we'd be able to break out the brooms tomorrow too.
We'll be breaking out the brooms all right -- sweeping up the pieces after Loiaza blows the game all to hell.
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