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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By finleyunplugged on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 03:43 pm:

This looks awesome. The views may rival those from the Seahawks stadium in Seattle or the top of Mt. Davis.

I haven't been this excited since Lew Wolff came up with that beautiful ballpark design to go north of the Coliseum a year or so ago...

http://www.sf49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=2032&section=PR%20News

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 06:20 pm:

Still too early to say anything, but yeah, I won't get too excited especially after the A's "presented" their Oakland baseball only park idea last August.

Still think the design in the late 90s was much better than this one.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 09:01 pm:

ML's take on the first few images of the new Niners stadium....

How uninspiring. It doesn't help that the gold seats appear beige in the picture. Gone are the sweeping lines of the HOK design. So is the Mills mall, and with it, probably the $100 million that was promised for the project by the city (because of the jobs that come with the mall). The boxy layout is eerily reminiscent of work done by HNTB across the bay, otherwise known as Mount Davis. In fact, take the entire sideline section in shadow. Does it not look just a little like the Coliseum outfield?

It should be pointed out that like the A's ballpark concept by 360, there's no exterior treatment on this stadium, so it can't be judged by a face that doesn't exist. Still, while stacking the suites and boxes on one side of the field is commendable for cost-cutting and better sightlines for fans, the whole package can't help but look a bit like a bloated SEC college football stadium. The concept works well for Ford Field, where it's wrapped in a neat gimmick - the use of an office building in the stadium bowl covered by a dome - but it doesn't look right in this case. That big structure behind the suites looks like a retaining wall to prevent the nearby hill from collapsing onto it.

Supposedly the design is flexible enough to work as an Olympic stadium should the time come in 2016. I can see where the use of large numbers of portable seats (also like Mt. Davis) could make such a concept work. The open north end should facilitate this as well. But does anyone remember what Atlanta's Olympic Stadium looked like prior to its conversion to Turner Field? Thought so. This design just deadpans "bland."

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By finleyunplugged on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:05 am:

I am likewise assuming the overflow seats would go in the north end of the stadium. I'm wondering how they would meet seismic standards, though. 15,000 people in temporary bleachers probably wouldn't hold up too well if the big one hit Candlestick Point during the Super Bowl, like it did during the World Series.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 08:15 pm:

Here's G.Dickey's opinion on this topic...

"49ERS STADIUM: That was quite a story about the plans for a new 49ers stadium, but writers and commentators on TV alike glossed over the most significant part: Construction won’t start for four years.

That tells me that (1) The “plans” are still largely dreams because the 49ers don’t know yet how they can pay for it; and (2) When and if the stadium is built, it probably won’t be on Candlestick Point. This time window gives the 49ers a chance to look for a better site in Santa Clara County, close to the biggest part of their fan base.

In my Examiner column last month, I suggested a better spot: The land San Francisco owns on the other side of 101 from the airport. There’s room for retail there, 180 acres, plus the stadium. Access would be great from three freeways, 101, 280 and 380. A BART line runs there, as does Cal Train. Compare that to the current stadium with its terrible access from 101 and only limited bus service. Of course, John York has done wonders to ease the access problems, much as Joe Thomas did in the ‘70s.

The airport site would be closer than Candlestick for South Bay fans and no further by time for those north of the park because of the much easier access. A Santa Clara site would be a problem for the considerable Niner fan base in the East Bay, stretching up to Sacramento.

Of course, none of this matters. York’s wife holds the purse strings and she’s never going to loosen them to pay for a new stadium."

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 08:16 pm:

http://glenndickey.com/_gd.php?page=current

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 08:16 pm:

New design by HNTB..same guys who design Mt. Davis

http://www.sf49ers.com/nm_files/Image/High%20Res%20Stadium/stadiumbirdseyeone.jpg

http://49ers.com/nm_files/Image/High%20Res%20Stadium/skylineone.jpg


Late 1990s design by HOK

http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/SanFrancisco49ers/newinterior.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/5649/stadium2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/5649/stadium3.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/5649/stadium1.jpg

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By vinnieangelo on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 02:18 am:

Here is a design for the 49ers new logo


http://weeklyuniverse.com/2004/poop.jpg

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 09:22 am:

Vinnie, go wash your mouth out with soap!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By finleyunplugged on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 12:11 pm:

Hey, I recognize that!

It's the same thing Al Davis left on A's fans heads when he destroyed our stadium and ripped off the community.

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