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The $8,000,000 Man Revisited, Again

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By scottfrom0z (144.133.89.94) on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 08:24 pm:

double play.....typical >> trade him for a 50th round draft pick

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.18.16) on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 08:26 pm:

That's our $8 million man. Perfect -- swings into a DP on the first pitch.

Bring back Antonio Perez!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (67.174.35.250) on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 11:07 pm:

I am convinced it's mental with him. Two hits with bases empty and a strike out and a double play with men on. He just has no confidence. And today he is probably just saying "it's ok - we always start slow."

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (75.61.88.119) on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 02:50 pm:

Chavez with a couple of more hits today...he's batting .321 which is very good thru the first week of games but too bad he's made too many mental mistakes.

Since a new "8 Million Dollar Man Revisited" topic was posted, whos the first to post the 07 season's version of the postive and negative threads.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By scottfrom0z (144.133.89.94) on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 05:24 pm:

Yeah, .321 looks nice in the paper the next morning, however how often does he do it in the clutch. Lets bring Carney Lansford out of retirement.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By dorrit (207.69.139.156) on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 06:11 pm:

Every season, we hear "this will be Chavez' year.." I'm still waiting!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (67.174.35.250) on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 09:14 pm:

Nah - we are not hearing that anymore.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (75.61.91.225) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:37 pm:

1st and 2nd, nobody out in the 9th, Chavez Ks. 0-4 tonight.

Well at least he didn't GIDP like last Sunday.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (67.174.35.250) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:37 pm:

i live for the day that he is no longer on this team. It will all change then.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.46.91) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:51 pm:

Walker can play 3B, right???

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (75.61.91.225) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:53 pm:

Walker may hitter better than Chavez but just as bad as Chavez has been doing with the bat, Walker is TERRIBLE with the glove.

He might cost the A's games with his bad D alone.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.46.91) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:03 pm:

You're right. I got carried away.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (67.174.35.250) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:04 pm:

what a gutsy good move to pinch hit for Crosby. I don't think that Macha would have done that.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactodavey (207.200.116.200) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:36 pm:

WITH CHAVEZ YOU GOTTA JUST THINK HE IS A GREAT DEFENSIVE GUY AND PUT HIM IN THE #8 HOLE EITH NO EXPECTATIONS.

IN ALL HONESTY WE REALLY MISS MIGGY, CROSBY IS A TOTAL BUST AND ONE FOR THE CAREER RECORD BOOKS, GREAT ROOKIE YR AND BAM DONE!!!!

IF WE HAD MIGGY IN #4 HOLE WE WOULD BE AWSOME!!!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (67.174.35.250) on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:45 pm:

well I will really become a Geren fan if he bats Chavez 8th.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By asch (63.146.24.10) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 06:27 am:

I went to bed before the win, but I will agree with the above - the move to let Walker hit for Crosby is huge.

I haven't watched as much of as many games as I would like, but there are things Geren is doing I am liking. He's moving the order around a bit, he's hitting and running and ordering some more steals. I like it. You can do that, and do it in a smart manner. He's doing just that.

Re: buck, 1-2 with 2bb's. That's impressive. .265 overall - the key for him is to cut down on the k's. That will happen over time. I think he's proven he has what it takes and it will just be a matter of getting some more seasoning. I am really impressed with him.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rocket (67.156.226.219) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:17 am:

Nice win, but the offense is a whole lot like
it was the first half of last season. Which is
not very good. While the offensive talent is
not great, it is better than they are playing.
Is it a rule the offense has to struggle the
first half of the season?

Anther good pitching job though.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By raiderjohn (65.168.177.49) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:00 am:

Frank Thomas said it best last year. Season's a marathon, not a quick sprint. If we are able to squeeze out a lot of wins this way, I will take them....just to keep us floating in the playoff race. Just like the game last night, we just kept at it and when the fat lady was warming up, we told her to shutup. I think that's what we need to do, just keep at it, the numbers will even out.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By washfan38 (75.57.242.90) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 12:29 pm:

Geren will impress me when he sticks JK in the 9-hole.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rocket (67.156.226.219) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 12:30 pm:

"the numbers will even out" true, but that is
true of the pitching as well. A's have had
really terrific starter pitching so far, but
it is not likely to continue to be as dominant
over the long haul.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By washfan38 (75.57.242.90) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 01:02 pm:

Gaudin has impressed me so far...Garland is one the best pitchers in the bigs and Gaudin pert near matched him.

I do agree with SactoD, Miggy should have been kept and Chavey let go with Crosby at 3rd. With Crosby not playing SS, he may have stayed more healty? At least he would not have caused Ellis to lose an entire season had he been groomed for 3rd.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (216.38.134.2) on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 02:16 pm:

Lineup was shuffled today:

Stewart
Swisher
Kielty
Piazza
Chavez
Ellis
Walker
Kendall
Scutaro

Bradley tweaked his leg scoring in the 9th last night.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (75.61.80.27) on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 11:18 pm:

1-5 today, but that one hit was HUGE being a 2 run HR, also had another RBI which gave him 3 for the night.

Also had that HUGE potentially game saving play in the 10th when he made a juggling catch around the 3B warning track, especially when their was as Yank on 2B.

Chavez gets a pass for tonight right?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By vinnieangelo (71.202.169.161) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:14 pm:

Chavez.....

He is as clutch as an automatic transmission...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (76.20.32.84) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:24 pm:

can he even just hit the ball hard for once when the game's on the line? What a loser. I'd love to see his stats of BA with no one on versus with RISP.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (75.61.93.148) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:50 pm:

Ask and you'll receive, his #s before today's game and it may shock many...


Bases empty-.216
Runners on-.323
RISP-.268

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rocket (68.238.72.66) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 03:54 pm:

Chavy so far this season, not as revealing as
A's fans would think.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3953

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By threepeat (12.218.146.43) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 04:38 pm:

All very interesting- But how many of us REALLY consider Eric a "Franchise Player" in the mold of any offensive (you pick 'em) true "Franchise Player" in MLB? Offensively, Chavez is no more than an an average ML player right now.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (76.202.78.62) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 06:46 pm:

Chavez isn't a franchise player you build this team around.

I think he's better than an average player...from 01-05, the guy averaged .270/30/100 and won a gold glove in each year too. How many other players at their position has done that in a 5 year span recently.

Chavez will NEVER win...the A's chose him out of the trio of Giambi and Tejada to build the lineup around and so far, it doesn't look like he'll live up to the honor bestoned about him.

He's a all star talent IMO, but don't know if he has the drive to be the player many had him to be especially after 01 which could be his best season ever.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactodavey (71.197.73.165) on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 08:02 pm:

no chevy is a great defensive player that saves 1 run every 2 games with defense,they should have signed miggy with chavez they needed both of them,now like i said then with the escalation of tv money and salary what is 11 mill a yr for a guy like miggy? nothing this was a huuuge blunder.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rayfossefan (169.237.122.136) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 02:54 pm:

very disappointed at chavvy on sunday, he has two men on with 2 out, top of the 9th and the guy swings at the first pitch and pops it up. geez, how about working the count a bit? the guy had just come on for an injured gagne (wow, what a mistake it was signing that guy!)and gets one out and walks a batter. i mean, take a pitch or two, see if he walks you, or gives you a meatball to hit. sheesh

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (216.38.134.2) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 03:09 pm:

EXACTLY. Sometimes I think he doesn't have a brain in his head.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (75.39.244.225) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 03:24 pm:

I'm, for the most part, a Chavy defender and I will debate the cost versus overall production issue all day, however, since Eric's been in the bigs he has had a tendency to lose plate patience in RISP situations. Sunday was the latest example of same.

It is this trait that keeps him from being a "franchise player" in my eyes.
I still will take him over any 3rd sacker in the game and am convinced that if he were to be traded (unfortunately) some day that the change in scenary would be just what was needed for him to become an elite player.
I think he's almost too comfortable in Oaktown.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rayfossefan (169.237.122.136) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 03:27 pm:

reno I think chavvy is a great third baseman and can be a good hitter, but no way should he be the 3rd, 4th or 5th hitter on your team. maybe the 6th guy... *maybe* the 5th. but he's too streaky to be a solid 3rd or 4th guy.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (130.86.63.81) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 03:38 pm:

7th spot is where I think he needs to be.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (75.39.244.225) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 03:54 pm:

I agree completely RFF.

I imagine that with Bradley going down, Chavy will be counted on to hit 3rd for a while longer. The silver lining is that he historically likes hitting in Camden.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By threepeat (12.218.146.43) on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 10:52 pm:

Leads the A'S with thirty (30) runners left on base and seventeen (17) Ks in 78 ABs- Ks every 4.5 ABs

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By finleyunplugged (205.225.207.97) on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 09:17 am:

We need to bring up Antonio Perez.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (216.38.134.2) on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 11:23 am:

Nice to see Chavez leads the team in SOME categories. (hah)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ssblip (24.21.167.106) on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 10:09 pm:

isn't chavez also leading the team in BA though? (gasp)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By threepeat (12.218.146.43) on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 11:08 pm:

Yes, but with a truely stellar average of .268. Not what I would consider worthy of "franchise player" status and in excess of $8,000,000.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (216.38.134.2) on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 11:42 am:

Just a sign of how poorly the team is hitting overall.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ssblip (24.21.167.106) on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 01:59 pm:

yep...i'm usually the first to trash eric because of the more than reasonable expectations laid upon him and his failure to meet those expectations, but overall our hitting flat-out sucks.

pitching and d is what works for us today. don't know why i'm so frustrated about this -- it's been the mantra for years. i should just accept it.

well, this we do know: that the rest of the team's hitters will improve over the season. but eric, at .268, will stay right there. franchise player? miggy, how i miss thee.

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