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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By jerryo1 (64.221.252.50) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:11 pm:

Bowen came from the Pods for Michael Barrett (following the Zambrano altercation). Bowen has been squeezed for playing time by Koyie Hill, who the Cubs really like. Bowen only had 9 starts for the Cubs in his month with the team.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By dorrit (207.69.139.155) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 01:56 pm:

I'll miss ol' scrappy..

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (75.39.244.225) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 05:06 pm:

LOL. I will hold out hope that Beane gave ol' scrappy a chance to go to the Cubs as a "rental" and participate in the playoffs as a bit of an enticement for him to return to Oaktown next season to tutor our very raw Mr. Suzuki. Quid pro quo.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By jerryo1 (71.198.21.6) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 06:15 pm:

"I could care less about the cash considerations (I figure it's $1 million or so).

From ESPN.com:
The 33-year-old Kendall was traded Monday for catcher Rob Bowen and minor league left-hander Jerry Blevins. Oakland also sent the Cubs $4,541,257 to cover the remainder of Kendall's salary, which was $13.4 million this season.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactodavey (207.200.116.200) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 06:25 pm:

and 11 million was too much to sign miggy this org is a joke.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (71.94.21.156) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 06:29 pm:

Wow, Goood Laud that's a lot of money. I guess our scouts think Blevins is Cy Young reincarnate.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.26.182) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 08:33 pm:

The way this team operates, I'm surprised they had $4 mill in the petty cash box.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (71.94.21.156) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 08:40 pm:

Our youngster behind the plate is demonstrating tonite just how raw he is.

Definitely baptism by fire. :(

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.26.182) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 08:57 pm:

He has a LOT to learn...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (71.94.21.156) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 09:47 pm:

Susuki fails to execute the perfect pitchout call (probably by Lach) to open up this big crappy inning.

Gonna be real brutal to be an A's fan rest of this lost season.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.26.182) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 09:56 pm:

This is one of the ugliest games I've seen in a long time. Mental errors, physical errors (throw by Kennedy, Crosby butchers a play). At least Suzuki has an excuse.

A game that was 3-3 an inning ago is now 10-4.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By jerryo1 (71.198.21.6) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:03 pm:

I blame Aaron Brown for the botched pitch-out, not Suzuki. You've got to give the kid a pitch-out that he can handle if you expect him to throw somebody out. Kurt had to reach for the ball, which required an extra step, then he had no chance.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.26.182) on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:24 pm:

Is that why Aaron Brown was fired by CNN?

:)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By dorrit (207.69.139.138) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 07:47 am:

I never leave a game early, but last night, I left in the eighth inning...brutal.When we were tied 3-3, I thought just maybe we can do it. As usual, by the seventh we stunk.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (38.99.44.122) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 09:38 am:

Likewise, I turned the television off in the 8th. Only a masochist would have stuck around for that.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (38.99.44.122) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 09:41 am:

Kendall story from Chicago:

"http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070717cubsbrite,1,4496976.story?coll=chi-sportstop-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true"

He only takes minor swipes at the A's...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By raiderjohn (65.168.177.49) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 10:18 am:

Boy we really wanted Suzuki to get the on the job training now. 4 million to the Cubs, geez.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By finleyunplugged (205.225.207.97) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 05:03 pm:

The Pirates gave the A's 5.5 million towards Kendall's salary this year, so the A's actually make money on this deal.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By jaykva1 (68.54.5.38) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 05:52 pm:

finley ... Swindall was owed $13.5 mil overall for this year ... the Piros paid $5.5 mil ... the A's were on the hook for $8 mil, so if JerryO1's numbers are right ... the A's Don't make any money on this.

they pay the Cubs $4 mil(plus) to take Swindall off their hands ... it costs the Cubs no money for Swindall, only a coupl players ... just shows how badly the A's wanted to undo their own Swindall swindle.

A's offense has to have the fewest games with double-digit hit games in MLB this season

they are harrible

it reminds me of 1978 A's ... who were 56-55 on August 5th, then won 13 games the rest of the season to finish 69-93 ... I figure some sort of finish this season too

thanks for the fact Jerry !! I do appreciate it

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.39.85) on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 09:21 pm:

From Slusser's notes today in the Chron:

"The A's will save roughly $700,000 on the remainder of Kendall's salary, having sent cash to the Cubs to cover the rest. (The Pirates are paying $7 million of the $13 million.)"

Also:

"Kendall did not ask for any additional compensation to waive the no-trade. He understands that the A's appear to be retooling with an eye to the future."

And:

"In the past year, Kendall repeatedly has said he'd like to keep playing in Oakland, and he doesn't entirely rule out coming back as a free agent, despite Suzuki's promotion."

And finally:

"There was never anything negative with the A's. There was never any bad blood. Billy did what he had to do."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2007/07/18/SPG86R1H5F1.DTL&type=as

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (130.86.63.81) on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 05:36 pm:

why does the ESPN box score keep showing Kendall's .221 average? It's supposed to start over when a player changes leagues. As far as I know, and I have been following closely, he has not gotten a hit since going to the Cubs so his average should be .000.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (76.202.76.240) on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 06:04 pm:

He's 0-12 so far including his one AB today.

Nothing has changed much eh.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (76.202.76.240) on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 06:04 pm:

He's 0-12 so far including his one AB today.

Nothing has changed much eh.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By rocket (67.156.226.228) on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 11:52 am:

Kendall has hit .313 with a .410 OBP for the Cubbies. Seems to have returned to his pre-A's
ways.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3401

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 12:41 pm:

It's the fastball league, remember?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (130.86.63.81) on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 02:44 pm:

That is annoying as hell - not to mention puzzling. I can't buy the argument that it's just the difference in leagues. There is plenty of movement by pitchers from league to league.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (76.236.71.213) on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 03:26 pm:

Well the A's tv production put up his #s against NL in interleague a few months ago and they were much better than his #s in the AL which isn't really saying much.

Happy with Suzuki, he had a very good roadtrip hitting the baseball, .350(7/20).

If Kendall had stayed, I doubt he would do much better than what he did for most of this season. He's an NL hitter. Least with Suzuki, most likely he's gonna keep improving as both a hitter and signal caller.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 03:27 pm:

The gap has closed somewhat with re to the increased movement in pitching btw. the leagues. But it hasn't closed as much as you might think ... "annoying as hell" or not. As of 4 years ago, according to BP (and they had the examples to prove it), there was about a 30-40% (in some cases, close to 50%) difference ... AL players moving to NL, whose averages fattened considerably (the only exception at the time was Griffey Jr) and NL players dropping in some cases as much as 47% and even more (if I'm recalling correctly) when moving to the AL. So, if you find it annoying, too bad, because it doesn't look to change significantly any time soon; gradually? Yeh, I would guess. But it is what it is .. so be annoyed. And it's still happening.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 03:32 pm:

It also should be pointed out, that the DH in the AL also causes pitchers to change patterns more, making it even tougher for NL players who come over.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (38.99.44.122) on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 09:15 am:

I like Kurt's arm more and more!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By washfan38 (66.127.52.249) on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:12 pm:

Maybe we could move Chavey to the NL?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (76.231.45.133) on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 01:48 pm:

Well Blevins was called up who was the minor league LHRP we got in the Kendall deal and he was DEALING in the minors as he had a 1.63 ERA in 77.1 IP in the reg season with both the Cubs and A's high level minor league teams.

He's 24 and has insane measureables at 6'6" 185. I don't know what type of stuff he has but after that great of a season in the minors, he could be a key piece in next year's pen for the A's.

That Kendall deal could be very good for the A's. We've seen Suzuki emerge to at least a solid hitting C in the AL, Bowen looks to be a solid vet C with some pop, and now Blevins.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By renobill (71.94.31.44) on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 11:31 pm:

I think that time will prove out in the long run that Beane did a tremendous job in 07 in face of an injury riddled season, first, cutting his losses with Bradley/Kendall and acquiring Brown, Blevens, and Bowen and then, picking up Cust, Snelling, Hannahan, and Lugo.

And we may very well see Denorfia become the biggest acquisition of all.

In BB I trust.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 03:44 am:

Supposedly, Blevins has has a 93-94 mph fastball that moves and him coming at the hitters ... all arms and legs doesn't hurt. He evidently has a good slider which he throws hard as well; clocked some at 91 mph.

I recall when the A's got, it was either a Cubs pitching coach or others who said they guarantee he is a good one and not far from the majors. They were sorry to lose him. Guess they knew what they were talking about.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By muddlehead (76.21.30.156) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:42 am:

agree renobill. .500 with this group is a good season. more excited about tbuck and barton and suzuki than 4 you mentioned, though. trades vs farm of course. fwiw, you look up and it's crazy to notice we have become a "colorless" team.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By washfan38 (67.117.144.123) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:24 am:

"you look up and it's crazy to notice we have become a "colorless" team."

Hey lilly white is a color :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By eyleenn (71.131.23.35) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:11 am:

Actually, white is the absence of color; black is the presence of all colors.

We do have Stewart and Thompson.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By sactofan (130.86.63.81) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:31 am:

and Lugo and Dee Brown.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (75.61.92.29) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:52 pm:

Well is Robnett the only legit positonal prospect that's black in the minor leagues?

Even though I don't think it's a huge deal, look at a lot of teams in MLB now, including the Yanks and BoSox and not like they're clubhouses look anymore different than the A's.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:22 pm:

Don't think Lugo counts, sacto, as he's hispanic, as is Casilla. Most of the multi-athletic African Americans choose basketball or football because the big paydays (no minor league systems) come much sooner. The few African Americans (now only 7% representation in the mlb) who are choosing baseball are mostly too talented for the financially challenged A's. Sadly. And I do believe Robnett is the only African American legit prospect in our system.

Really, there are very few teams anymore with considerable numbers of African Americans. There just aren't that many entering the game.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:26 pm:

I might add, that we had Bradley only because ... well, Bradley was Bradley. We only had Frank Thomas and Shannon Stewart because they were coming off severe injuries and nobody else wanted to take a chance, otherwise, we sure couldn't have afforded them. They both showcased well with the A's and were able to price themselves out of our market. I'm assuming, that is, that will also be the case with Stewart.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By oaktownfan (76.231.45.7) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:47 pm:

A's gave long term deals to both Long and Dye, both busted so it's not like Beane doesn't look to keep black ballplayers.

Long regressed after a very good 2001 and Dye was never the same until 05 with the ChiSox after the broken leg in the 01 ALDS in game 3.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By washfan38 (67.117.144.123) on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 07:09 pm:

Casilla and Lugo are Afro-Latin whereas Scut is Euro or Cacasian-Latin there is a difference.

Really I don't give a damn about race as long as ALL players for the A's perform well on the field and stay out of trouble off it.

I like Geren but still wish Wash had become the next A's manager...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By deajay (207.200.116.200) on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 07:50 am:

OTF, Beane tried very hard to sign Stewart to a multi-yr contract (translated, I guess, to two years), but Stewart insisted on only the one year. This was in one of the articles a couple weeks ago. I think sfgate, but can't remember.


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